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  • PHP 7

    PHP 7 has not been released yet, but hopefully in a few weeks it will.
    Has anyone tried to see if SC8.1 would work on PHP 7?
    I am curious how close it is, since PHP 7 is so much faster than current version of PHP.

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    As SC is written in PHP 5.6 you cannot select PHP7 in your cpanel. It will not run correctly. We need to wait until SC itself is updated. I asked this question at a webinar recently and was told it COULD BE in first half of 2016. At least this was my understanding.

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    • #3
      It depends on the compatibility of PHP 7 from other versions. In general applications should work fine. But it could be that certain php things change and afaik one of the (important) changes is in the foreach statement, so I would expect problems. But you can always try.
      Albert Drent
      aducom software netherlands
      scriptcase partner, reseller, support and (turn-key) development
      www.scriptcase.eu / www.scriptcase.nl

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      • #4
        As a developer I am very excited with the PHP 7.

        Unfortunately we can't just make it work right away, two major things are needed to release SC with PHP 7.

        1) We need to verify if all the tool's interface and generated apps will keep working as intended.
        2) We would need to update our encryption system.

        This things take time.
        That being said, It will probably be available within the next versions (9+ I believe).
        Regards,
        Cavadinha

        Development Team
        Netmake - IT Solutions

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        • #5
          Cavadinha, do you have an approximate release date for version 9? Just a rough estimate will do.
          Thanks

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          • #6
            Despite, I'm curious too, there is no guarantee that PHP 7 will be supported in V9 immediately. PHP7 is still a release candidate and still not official and as soon as it will, it will take some time to be around the different providers. So why the hurry? What's in PHP 7 you so urgently need and what you currently can't do? Just the speed can't be the issue.
            Albert Drent
            aducom software netherlands
            scriptcase partner, reseller, support and (turn-key) development
            www.scriptcase.eu / www.scriptcase.nl

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            • #7
              Like the old saying: "Time is money".
              More performance / processing power means we can escalate apps to even bigger and bigger systems without the clients experience any "freeze".

              And this is awesome.

              Also ScriptCase have a giant code and we need to keep it up to date to satisfy the current clients and bring new ones. We can't let the code become obsolete.
              Of course there is also new features, fix of annoying bugs (specially on windows), but the performance is the main reason, yes.

              But don't worry, we won't rush it the PHP7, as I said before, it has a chance to pop up at version 9, it is not guaranteed.
              We have to test the entire tool before we choose to adopt the PHP7, to verify if any deprecated code is bugged and stuffs like that.

              I am already using it locally for example, but it will take a some time to give us certain of the update.

              @bwalk
              No sneak peeks for the moment
              Sorry!
              Regards,
              Cavadinha

              Development Team
              Netmake - IT Solutions

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              • #8
                I prefer you guys take your time and deliver a version with as least bugs as possible then that you hurry up. Providers will not switch to php7 taht quickly either.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cavadinha View Post
                  Like the old saying: "Time is money".
                  More performance / processing power means we can escalate apps to even bigger and bigger systems without the clients experience any "freeze".

                  And this is awesome.

                  Also ScriptCase have a giant code and we need to keep it up to date to satisfy the current clients and bring new ones. We can't let the code become obsolete.
                  Of course there is also new features, fix of annoying bugs (specially on windows), but the performance is the main reason, yes.

                  But don't worry, we won't rush it the PHP7, as I said before, it has a chance to pop up at version 9, it is not guaranteed.
                  We have to test the entire tool before we choose to adopt the PHP7, to verify if any deprecated code is bugged and stuffs like that.

                  I am already using it locally for example, but it will take a some time to give us certain of the update.

                  @bwalk
                  No sneak peeks for the moment
                  Sorry!
                  When scriptcase 9 will be done?

                  I'm deploying some aplications in ubuntu 16.04, intalling over php-5.6 that is already deprecated, would be a problem update later.

                  Other php tool generator are supporting PHP7 already.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cavadinha View Post
                    @bwalk
                    No sneak peeks for the moment
                    Sorry!
                    No sneak peeks but man, if only we could have a modern responsive framework embedded natively a la Bootstrap 3 or even 4, I'd be forever ingratiated. Dream on...

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                    • #11
                      Yeah. Bootstrap native integration is my main concern too. Our client won't bother what's version of php we using right?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scriptcaser View Post
                        No sneak peeks but man, if only we could have a modern responsive framework embedded natively a la Bootstrap 3 or even 4, I'd be forever ingratiated. Dream on...
                        I know right.
                        I understand your wishes and I try to bring this whenever I can to the discussions on our internal meetings.
                        I can't promise anything, all I can say is that we are sailing in that direction.

                        An environment with better responsivity and mobile support.

                        About PHP7, its tricky to make the change right away.
                        You can use the generated apps in your PHP7 server with basically no problems.

                        We are still working on the Dev area.
                        Regards,
                        Cavadinha

                        Development Team
                        Netmake - IT Solutions

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wahchai1971@yahoo.com View Post
                          Yeah. Bootstrap native integration is my main concern too. Our client won't bother what's version of php we using right?

                          Yes I totally agree that Bootstrap 3 or 4 native integration is more important than PHP 7 implementation. I hope SC development team, sqlmaestro (one of Scriptcase competitor) has already implemented Bootsrap and PHP 7. They also have what features will be available in the next version in 2017. Come on SC,I am almost a year with you.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cavadinha View Post

                            I know right.
                            I understand your wishes and I try to bring this whenever I can to the discussions on our internal meetings.
                            I can't promise anything, all I can say is that we are sailing in that direction.

                            An environment with better responsivity and mobile support.
                            Thanks Cavadinha. Always feels good to know Netmake cares enough to step in occasionally into chats. Please what is the use of the Bootstrap + SC feature in your blog? How can that be used to change responsiveness of grids/ form apps in SC 8 today? I already posted this: http://www.scriptcase.net/forum/foru...-and-bootstrap

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                            • #15
                              I think if netmake change the SC to adapt the native bootstrap, will be very complicated. They have to rewrite from ground up for "mobile first"

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