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  • #16
    Great! then we have no problem here, don't you think!?

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    • #17
      Good idea kafe - not tried that tho - but will. Assuming it works then happy days

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      • #18
        MikeDESAMACHANSEMPAI... as We all know... SC is a growing solution, tho I understand this does not represent an issue for most of us.. but for product sake... I just wanna ask you... What happend to people who is not a programmer?, people who just started using SC as a solution for their lack of knowledge?. SC should be aiming to do thinks so easy even those people can use it without the excruciating process of hitting the wall everytime you wanna personalize something as simple as the $%&/&%$%&/&%$%&/ help icon lol.

        Don't you think?.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kafecadm View Post
          MikeDESAMACHANSEMPAI... as We all know... SC is a growing solution, tho I understand this does not represent an issue for most of us.. but for product sake... I just wanna ask you... What happend to people who is not a programmer?, people who just started using SC as a solution for their lack of knowledge?. SC should be aiming to do thinks so easy even those people can use it without the excruciating process of hitting the wall everytime you wanna personalize something as simple as the $%&/&%$%&/&%$%&/ help icon lol.

          Don't you think?.
          indeed I agree with you, for those people you included, here is this forum growing up, we all started knowing nothing, however, if SC is so perfect, then I guess this one is fundamental to mention it even as a macro or some workaround so if you want to add the helpcase, do this and this...

          only those who really just wanna finish the project for some reason no matter what, will accept to have the helpcase as a first-level menu kind of "blind" and without an icon, yet, not controlable!! what SC guys are thinking about; we don't know, but it is a fact.

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          • #20
            Guys

            As has been said by many others previously - for the most part SC does it all pretty well out of the box. However, once you you wish to start doing anything clever you really do need the programming experience. Don't get me wrong. NetMake should ensure the bits in SC that they have written add value rather than make things more difficult. Helpcase is a good example. It's mostly there in terms of being usable - but a couple of silly omissions make it painful to set up and use properly. However, you don't need to use Helpcase at all if you don't want.

            At the end of the day SC is a tool to make the programming effort much less than if writing your system from scratch yourself. It is unfair to expect SC to be able to do every little thing people want (as that is an infinite amount) and they are often very specific and specialist requests. There's no mileage in NetMake spending effort on something only a very small percentage of people want.

            So my view is if you want zero programming then SC is NOT for you. Even MS-ACCESS required VB programming effort for anything "unusual". So if you cannot or will not program, then the only legitimate alternative is to purchase an off the shelf (or bespoke) system that does what you want. At the end of the day SC makes my programming life overall, very much simpler.

            And understand that my comments are more levelled at non-programmers (not you two)

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            • #21
              @adz1111 Thank you for helping other guys out here and nice tinkering you did there.

              @Thread
              I've read the thread carefully and I understand that some of you may have difficulties to make customize something.
              We are always trying to make our programmer's life easier but unfortunatelly we can't make all demands happen fast enough.

              Some of our clients enjoy our Webhelp tool a lot, and we want others who don't know the tool to enjoy it aswell, so we're making some changes there and i'll be glad to hear and analyze any suggestion on this topic.
              Little sneak peak: I's going be like our own online sc manual, but customizable.

              Adz1111, since you started with some suggestion you could make a "Helpcase Suggestion" thread on the "Suggestions" section of the forum and i'll be glad to go there later to check out your thoughts.
              Regards,
              Cavadinha

              Development Team
              Netmake - IT Solutions

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              • #22
                Cavadinha

                Thanks for your input - I'll do as you suggest re the suggestions thread (give me a few days)...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by adz1111 View Post
                  Guys

                  As has been said by many others previously - for the most part SC does it all pretty well out of the box. However, once you you wish to start doing anything clever you really do need the programming experience. Don't get me wrong. NetMake should ensure the bits in SC that they have written add value rather than make things more difficult. Helpcase is a good example. It's mostly there in terms of being usable - but a couple of silly omissions make it painful to set up and use properly. However, you don't need to use Helpcase at all if you don't want.

                  At the end of the day SC is a tool to make the programming effort much less than if writing your system from scratch yourself. It is unfair to expect SC to be able to do every little thing people want (as that is an infinite amount) and they are often very specific and specialist requests. There's no mileage in NetMake spending effort on something only a very small percentage of people want.

                  So my view is if you want zero programming then SC is NOT for you. Even MS-ACCESS required VB programming effort for anything "unusual". So if you cannot or will not program, then the only legitimate alternative is to purchase an off the shelf (or bespoke) system that does what you want. At the end of the day SC makes my programming life overall, very much simpler.

                  And understand that my comments are more levelled at non-programmers (not you two)
                  D= how dare you... lol jking.

                  To be honest I joined this forum so I could share a bit with the people who uses scriptcase trying to make their life easier... I hit the wall several times in a lot of ways with scriptcase but yes it is still an affordable solution to do speed up "development" (notice the word).

                  My point here to all of you is... THIS FORUM IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO LET NETMAKE KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IS TO DO SOMETHING... and I mean that, I've tried to approach them with support (didn't work), sales (worst try I ever did in my life), I even tried to pay for specific modifications to scriptcase and they refused. but... BUUUUUT... I've seen a greater response in forums than in any other channel. so. come on guys use this forum to let netmake what you guys want the product to be.

                  =D

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by kafecadm View Post
                    ... I've seen a greater response in forums than in any other channel... so. come on guys use this forum to let netmake what you guys want the product to be...
                    Lately we have increased our time alocation to the forums.
                    But there are only few guys who have to visit it everyday, and sometimes even these people have no time to take a look here.

                    For example, me, whenever I have some time to spare I give a fast look in the main section to see whats going on or check previously threads i've answered to see if people still need some info.
                    Also I like to close a little bit the gap between the devs and users.

                    But thats a thing that I do because I like and in my "free time" only.
                    Regards,
                    Cavadinha

                    Development Team
                    Netmake - IT Solutions

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by adz1111 View Post
                      Guys

                      As has been said by many others previously - for the most part SC does it all pretty well out of the box. However, once you you wish to start doing anything clever you really do need the programming experience. Don't get me wrong. NetMake should ensure the bits in SC that they have written add value rather than make things more difficult. Helpcase is a good example. It's mostly there in terms of being usable - but a couple of silly omissions make it painful to set up and use properly. However, you don't need to use Helpcase at all if you don't want.

                      At the end of the day SC is a tool to make the programming effort much less than if writing your system from scratch yourself. It is unfair to expect SC to be able to do every little thing people want (as that is an infinite amount) and they are often very specific and specialist requests. There's no mileage in NetMake spending effort on something only a very small percentage of people want.

                      So my view is if you want zero programming then SC is NOT for you. Even MS-ACCESS required VB programming effort for anything "unusual". So if you cannot or will not program, then the only legitimate alternative is to purchase an off the shelf (or bespoke) system that does what you want. At the end of the day SC makes my programming life overall, very much simpler.

                      And understand that my comments are more levelled at non-programmers (not you two)
                      Good post my friend you are about to get rank DESAMACHANSEMPAI by kafe

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